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27 May 2008 at 8:41am
Am I missing something or is this the case... you can create Pages with no title, no content, you can add new fields, but no validation, no required, no min, no max...?
You can give pages the same URL as other pages, and there is no complaint...
I dont mean user forms, I mean admin side CMS pages in the hierarchy?
Surely I am missing something? I have to be? No validation at all? A validation class? A way to add validation to the CMS?
I must be missing something... for me, this is a showstopper.
Any advice? Other than wait until version....x.
28 May 2008 at 12:12pm
Man, I have spent a couple of solid days working with SS, and in my long search for an OSS PHP framework/CMS that ticks all the boxes, I was thinking yay, Finally, I've found it. It really is a great piece of work.
The extensibility of the admin side of the CMS just kicks ass, but the lack of field level validation on the admin side, or even an example of how to add it if required, has left me crushed...
no one seems to have anything to comment? Not even a "Yeah, thats the case right now", or a "Dude you have it wrong!". I was hoping I was missing something.... I think I said that three times in the last post... sigh. Anyway. A last plea to the community? Anybody?
28 May 2008 at 1:19pm
the CMS uses the same form system as frontend forms, so generally can use client/serverside validation in the same way. its currently not implemented, as we assume CMS users to be more competent/trustworthy/knowing-what-theyre-doing - not always the case though ;)
28 May 2008 at 1:31pm Last edited: 28 May 2008 1:33pm
In reply to creating a page with an existing url: it seems to be possible, because there's no error message (bad, I agree). In reality, a page is created with another url, which you can see when you refresh... for instance, when I create yourdomain.com/sitemap while I already have a page with the "sitemap" url, a page with the url "sitemap-2" is created.
Not a very clear situation though, for, uhm, non-tech users...
Edit: ah, Ingo beat me to it...
Edit 2: spelling
29 May 2008 at 11:43am
Thanks for the response. So I guess in short, the answer is - no validation is provided out of the box on the admin side of the CMS... Yet. Although it can be done - it wasn't for various reasons.
Okay, well, that is not so bad, surprising yes... "Content Management the way it was supposed to be?", "Websites humans can use".. hmm not quite ...
For such a wicked job in so many, and I mean many areas, making an assumption that an admin user doesnt make mistakes is kinda like saying, "need a database driven cms - use phpmyadmin". Still, I will see what I can do with the jquery validation plugin, or other approach.
Thanks though for taking the time to respond, very appreciated.
@SilverRay: Thanks for the reply.
In creating a page that already has an existing url, yes, it is correct that the cms appends an incrementing integer to the end of the URL, but you can still change it back to conflict with an existing name and receive no warning at all, eg. Change home-2 to home and then save.
So, essentially the SS CMS comes with absolutely no field validation out of the box at all at version 2.2.2.
At least thats confirmed. Cheers.
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