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Is SilverStripe just CMS #201?? - No Wiki?


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PerryM

Community Member, 7 Posts

10 June 2008 at 4:46pm

Edited: 10/06/2008 4:46pm

I don't have time to educate folks here what a CMS is! Ok, here is the generally accepted definition from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

"A content management system (CMS) is computer software used to create, edit, manage, and publish content in a consistently organized fashion."

For goodness sakes you need a Wiki to do that. Chit-chatting isn't going to do this.

A CMS may support the following features:

"identification of all key users and their content management roles;
the ability to assign roles and responsibilities to different content categories or types;
definition of workflow tasks for collaborative creation, often coupled with event messaging so that content managers are alerted to changes in content (For example, a content creator submits a story, which is published only after the copy editor revises it and the editor-in-chief approves it.);
the ability to track and manage multiple versions of a single instance of content;
the ability to publish the content to a repository to support access to the content (Increasingly, the repository is an inherent part of the system, and incorporates enterprise search and retrieval.);
separation of content's semantic layer from its layout (For example, the CMS may automatically set the color, fonts, or emphasis of text.). "

TikiWiki does this and 10 times more. I'm simply looking for a simpler version for my wife.

Good grief.

Well, this is my last post on this topic, I would be glad to tutor some of you if you wish - the cost isn't that much for the knowledge you would get...

Think about it.

P.S.
This is about as primitive an editor one can imagine - no matter what's typed in it is displayed all bunched up. When you open it for editing the spaces are there, just never displayed.

Well, like I said maybe in 1 year you guys will progress enough for me to consider SilverStripe.

I wish you all the best...

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Grayzag (aka ajshort)

29 Posts

11 June 2008 at 3:45pm

Edited: 11/06/2008 3:47pm

Heres just a quick post from me to clear up some apparent confusion:


Firstly, a CMS (Content Management System) is, at its most basic level, a tool that enables non technical users to manage the content on their website. There are many approaches to this - and yes, a wiki is one example of this. SilverStripe does not take the wiki approach to managing a site, however if this is what you are looking for you should just stick with one of the established wiki packages (mediawiki, tikiwiki, dokuwiki etc.). SilverStripe takes the approach of having a central administration panel with strict access control - and this is just as viable and useful as a wiki approach, but both have different aims, goals and implementations. You should just use whatever tool is mose appropriate for the site you are looking to create.


Theres a reason why theres 200+ CMS packages out for you to review (if you wish) - and that is that _all_ of them believe that they can do something different, or better, to the existing packages. Not every CMS will have a wiki, just as not every single CMS will have a forum or a central control panel. Its that simple - they are just tailored for different purposes.


Also, for the future, please keep in mind that if you come into a CMS forum generally badmouthing the software if revolves around, your input is not going to be taken seriously. If you wish to offer genuine, constructive criticism, feel free to do so - but please do not insult or aggravate the forum and its members.


As for the problem with the forum formatting, the forum is still a very early release, and this is a known bug that will be fixed in the future. Until then, we just have to cope with it.


Just as an aside, if you're a highly paid developer, perhaps you could spend the time creating a bridge between silverstripe and a wiki system. This will not only help you, but it will help others in the future who are having similar problems. Also, id be interested in seeing some of your top communities that you run with a wiki - as it seems to be an interesting approach that has some merit.

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Aaron

Community Member, 63 Posts

12 June 2008 at 6:49pm

"A content management system (CMS) is computer software used to create, edit, manage, and publish content in a consistently organized fashion."
For goodness sakes you need a Wiki to do that. Chit-chatting isn't going to do this.


You need a Wiki to create, edit, manage, and publish content? You just provided a very general definition of what a CMS is, yet follow it with a specific? I fail to see why you can't see that what you are after is an opinion, one that, in my experience, very little people share. Silverstripe covers all those general conditions you yourself posted.

I would be glad to tutor some of you if you wish


That sounds like a step backwards based on what I've read. No, thankyou.

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