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Re-branding silverstripe? what other evil can be done?


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philip142au

13 July 2008 at 11:02pm 7 Posts

Hi,

At our small I.T. company we wanted to know what evil and immoral can be done with Silverstripe assuming we are completely selfish people.

In particular, can we re-brand it with our company name and market as our company's CMS?
Can we sell it as our companys CMS and extend the code base?

In a way, this is a misrepresentation of the author, so isn't that a violation of copyright? Since, Silverstripe wrote the product in the first place, the copyright should reside with them.

However its BSD licence, so in theory we can do anything with it?

A quick google search I find some discussion about BSD, for example OSX uses BSD code.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum40/101.htm

Regards, Philip

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Sam

14 July 2008 at 6:17pm Administrator, 685 Posts

You might want to have a read of this page: http://www.silverstripe.com/licensing/

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philip142au

14 July 2008 at 6:26pm 7 Posts

Sure I did before I posted, but it doesn't answer my question.

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Sean

14 July 2008 at 7:14pm (Last edited: 14 July 2008 7:15pm), Forum Moderator, 921 Posts

It does mean you can pretty much do anything you want. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwwBle1TK2U

Xebidy is based on SilverStripe, but has been completely changed. It's re-branded, and there's a new feature that doesn't exist in the main SS branch, as shown in the video, allowing a CMS user to customise their web page layout.

If you end up making something for the CMS/framework for your clients and think it should go back into the main branch, you can always post your ideas on this forum, and/or create a ticket as a patch in our open source tracker containing your code you'd like to contribute - http://open.silverstripe.com/newticket

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Sean

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philip142au

14 July 2008 at 8:12pm 7 Posts

Its good to know I'm free to be evil or free to be good, thats real freedom right rather than forced freedom to share.

On a more serious note, thanks, of course I'd like to share back what I produce.

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mapes911

25 November 2008 at 11:13am Community Member, 12 Posts

Hi guys,
I was just reading the licensing agreement and came across this part

"Neither the name of SilverStripe nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission."

And I also checked out the Xebidy site and noticed that they say that their CMS is based on SilverStripe. Do any of you know if that is ok? I am trying to build a customized version of the CMS for myself and clients and I just want to know what the correct and allowed wording might be when talking about what the CMS is.

For example.. it would seem ok to say "<BLANK> CMS is based on the open source SilverStripe CMS" right? But when is it not ok to use the SilverStripe name?

Any thoughts?

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Anonymous user

28 November 2008 at 11:16am (Last edited: 28 November 2008 11:19am), 22 Posts

Hi guys,

Good questions & answers on this thread. I thought I'd chime in and clear up any issues.

If you look on our licensing page, the key point in thinking about "what's not appropriate" lies in:

"Neither the name of SilverStripe nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission."

Particularly, the words "endorse or promote".

So, first off, all the answers earlier in this thread are correct.

Secondly, what can't be done is when somebody creates a derived work (Foo CMS) and then says this kind of thing:

"The guys at SilverStripe love Foo CMS!"

or even

"SilverStripe endorses Foo CMS."

If you want to make such a statement, you have to talk to us first to get our permission.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

Oh yeah, the Xebidy guys are perfectly ok to say their stuff is "based on SilverStripe". That's more a statement of fact than an endorsement by us at SilverStripe.

cheers,

Brian