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6 October 2007 at 5:40am 121 Posts

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to do something like this:

<% control MyControl %>
$MyValue - $MyPageValue
<% end_control %>

where $MyPageValue is a value available _outside_ the control?

If it's not (I can't find a way) then how is one supposed to access values external to a control? You can't pass them in like this:

<% control MyControl($MyPageValue) %>
$MyValue - $MyPageValue
<% end_control %>


8 October 2007 at 2:23am Community Member, 787 Posts

hi Jam,

Good question ; I had the same problem , you can find my post here :

Ended up working around it with big and nasty "IF" blocks around the controls.

Please let us know if you find an answer.


8 October 2007 at 7:08am Forum Moderator, 801 Posts

you're right, this is currently not possible. i've always worked around this problem by customizing the passed data with the parent scope.


function Members() {
$members = DataObject::get('Member');
return $members->customise(array(
'ParentScope' => $this


<% control Members %>
<% end_control %>

its ugly, but it works :)

p.s.: you can gain a bit of insight how your template is actually parsed by adding ?showtemplate=1 to the URL.


8 October 2007 at 10:38pm 121 Posts

its ugly, but it works :)


I really wish I could use Smarty with SS. It's got (IMHO) much nicer syntax, and more flexibility when you need it.

p.s.: you can gain a bit of insight how your template is actually parsed by adding ?showtemplate=1 to the URL.

Thanks - that's useful.


14 June 2008 at 10:59pm Community Member, 604 Posts

Can someone please explain this a little clearer? It seems to be a pretty important issue. (I spent an hour trying to work out why a Page type var was not available within a control). That member example doesn't make sense to me at all. I mean, in what context is that function being called??


15 June 2008 at 10:27am Forum Moderator, 5511 Posts

I think you can access the functions available on the current pages controller by using $Top -

When you’re inside a control loop in your template, and want to reference methods on the current controller you’re on, breaking out of the loop to get it, you can use $Top to do so. For example:

<% control News %>
$URLSegment <!-- may not return anything, as you're requesting URLSegment on the News objects -->
$Top.URLSegment <!-- returns the same as $URLSegment above -->
<% end_control %>


15 June 2008 at 11:22am Community Member, 604 Posts

Thanks for the tip Willr. I just tested this and it works perfectly.



15 June 2008 at 11:37am (Last edited: 15 June 2008 11:38am), Forum Moderator, 5511 Posts

The limitation of this is it gets the topmost, and I dont believe theres a way to get only a Parent element. For example consider -

<% control Member %>
$Firstname // returns John
<% control Projects %>
$Parent.Firstname // returns '' as no firstname defined on Projects 'Parent' in the dataobject sense, not a templating sense.
$Top.Firstname // returns '' as no firstname defined on controller,
$Firstname // returns '' as no firstname defined on a Project
<% end_control %>
<% end_control %>

For this sort of thing, Ingos method works well. The template parser is pretty simple in what it can achieve and its one area that on the core-devs list there was a bit of a discussion about a couple of months back on how we could improve it, and this would be one thing that I would be happy to have!.

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