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order numbers going up even though noone is looking at the site

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19 February 2013 at 10:30pm Community Member, 8 Posts

does anyone have an idea why order numbers in the'Sales' section of the CMS might be going up on a site even though noone is looking at it?

i understand when people are looking at the site that they are allocated a number so numbers would naturally go up then, however the site is still in development and is only available to logged in users. at the moment that's only me yet they're going up by about 200 per day. rough calculation means that in one year, even if noone looks at the site, it'll be up to 60,000.

any help much appreciated as my programmer has given up on trying to figure it out and i have no idea how to explain it to the client...


20 February 2013 at 2:13am Forum Moderator, 1796 Posts

What type of ecommerce?
(forum lists Ecommerce, SS Shop, SilverCart and SwipeStripe as options)
What version of that code?
Can you confirm you have NOT added any custom code?

disclaimer -I do not use ecommerce solution and will not post further on this ;-)


20 February 2013 at 9:30am (Last edited: 20 February 2013 9:31am), Forum Moderator, 227 Posts

This is usually caused by the order ID being used as order reference numbers. Because the 'Order' dataobject is the same that is used for Cart, the ids will go up as users create carts. Obviously some carts are abandoned (in your case about 200 per day), and so you only see the ID of carts that do become placed orders.

My [url=]shop module[/url] has a 'generateReference' function, which uses the order ID by default, but can be extended to generate whatever reference you like (including a sequential ordering):
Pull requests welcome!


20 February 2013 at 10:18am Community Member, 8 Posts

thanks swaiba and jeremy.

(swaiba) there is definitely some custom coding going on, the programmer added weight modifiers to the cart. have just pinged him an email to find out which ecommerce it is.

(jeremy) thanks for your reply too. i do understand that order ids are given to folks regardless of if they make a purchase or not, only there's noone looking at the site right now, it's only me (site is only viewable to logged in folks). i'm the only one who's been looking at it and for the last couple of days while the numbers have been going up i've only been logging in once a day to see if they're going up, not snooping around on the site anywhere near enough to clock up 200 per day...?


20 February 2013 at 10:23am Forum Moderator, 227 Posts

ok, if you are using the ecommerce module, I previously helped someone bug where a new cart was being created on every page request. This may be the same thing. Have your programmer check when carts are being created. I think you might be able to visit to see when the id changes.


6 March 2013 at 11:08am Community Member, 6 Posts

thanks so much again for your help jeremy. i'll pass all that on to the programmer and cross my fingers (up to order 9000 now!!).


21 April 2013 at 7:36pm Community Member, 8 Posts

Following on to the posts below, order numbers are still going up at a crazy rate, 1000-2000 per day, and it appears that they are from bots spidering the site.

My layman's understanding of it is that when an actual person looks at the site, they are allocated one order number regardless of the amount of pages they look at. If a bot looks at it though, a new order number is generated for every page it looks at. This resulted in it crashing the server the site is sitting on the other day so am needing to do something about it.

Have read about robots.txt only I don't want to stop google etc from spidering the site. Would appreciate any thoughts about what can be done, cheers.


22 April 2013 at 11:00am Forum Moderator, 227 Posts

FYI, I have created a new issue for this here:

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