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General questions about getting started with SilverStripe that don't fit in any of the categories above.

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okotoker

Community Member, 41 Posts

7 July 2014 at 5:58am

I have many many reasons I choose Silverstripe over Wordpress but two simple ones are

1- I find it so much easier to train clients. What I build is just right for them, Wordpress is all over the place and what sections are used for what make no sense. So it makes me look good and makes me more profitable.

2- There have been many times I have taken on clients who had Wordpress sites and were constantly hacked. I moved the site into Silverstripe and it was clear sailing after that.

So yes there are countless reasons I prefer Silverstripe, but when a client asks why not to use Wordpress as they often do, those are the easy to explain reasons that matter to them.

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kindlemanwill

Community Member, 69 Posts

16 June 2014 at 4:40pm

Silverstripe's killer feature is the combination of a good MVC structure with a well thought out & comprehensive CMS / CMF. It's really unique in the PHP world and there is very little like it in Ruby either. I'm not sure about other languages - Probably Plone or something would be the nearest competitor.

One thing that a lot of people misunderstand. The fact that functionality is defined in code is a *feature* - not a disadvantage. To be able to create exactly what you want, to have that specified in readable code that is under source control is a big advantage over setting things up through a UI & configuration for a certain level of project.

... that said, Wordpress with ACF & gravity forms with the TimberWP twig plugin is a lovely way of working for smaller less critical projects. Choose the right tool for the job.

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Pix

Community Member, 153 Posts

14 June 2014 at 6:52am

Can you be more specific? How did it satisfy your unique business requirements for instance.

SS has saved me countless hours. When I saw that I could build a fully functional product catalogue in a few hours complete with an admin, I was hooked. Go through the tutorials, they are excellent, you will be off and running in no time. They will teach you the basics and then you will see the possibilities to build anything your client needs in a fraction of the time:
http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/tutorials/

I also checked themeforest.net and there doesn't seem to be an abundant availability of silverstripe themes to choose from just yet.
It is true, but I don't think anyone spends a lot of time building 'themes' for SS, I don't think it makes a lot of sense. With SS, you can create highly customized sites and layouts but at the same type you are creating unique page types that are probably particular to your business/client. It would be hard to slam a generic template on top of that. SS is not really designed to be an out of the box solution, it's designed to let you build exactly what you want. On the other hand, once you start understanding the templating system it is not hard to take any generic template and convert it to an SS theme :0)

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swaiba

Forum Moderator, 1831 Posts

14 June 2014 at 4:05am

So are you saying (or implying) that SS is not really to be compared with Wordpress & Joomla but more with a modern MVC framework (such as Symfony, Ruby on Rails or Django/Python)?

Yes, very much so.

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Devlin

Community Member, 266 Posts

13 June 2014 at 8:00pm

Edited: 13/06/2014 8:06pm

Why did you dislike the other PHP MVC frameworks that are already out there?

There is no dislike. It's simply a choice of what is best for business and my clients. In SilverStripe, you can prototype really fast... and at the same time have a consistent admin that you can teach your clients in a couple of minutes (even via telephone) and you can be sure there likely would be no further support tickets except request for additional features.

Maybe a better question then might be why did you choose PHP?

PHP is fast and reliable... and I like brackets.

How are you compensating for PHP's inherent security issues?

It’s as secure as any other web platform. Surely there are some sticking points in PHP that would be not be possible like this in other languages. But an unexperienced developer can and will write bad code regardless which language he chose.

Might I suggest you at least have an image in the banner?

What would be the purpose of that?

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Printec

Community Member, 3 Posts

13 June 2014 at 5:20pm

So are you saying (or implying) that SS is not really to be compared with Wordpress & Joomla but more with a modern MVC framework (such as Symfony, Ruby on Rails or Django/Python)?

Why did you dislike the other PHP MVC frameworks that are already out there? Also why did you decide not to go with a more "modern" language like Ruby or Python? Maybe a better question then might be why did you choose PHP?

Some people say that PHP is inherently insecure (or is insecure in its default setup configuration). Much of the Wordpress security issues stem from the "default" PHP web server configuration. How are you compensating for PHP's inherent security issues?

[BTW: I did finally get around to installing silverstripe on a test machine. The default theme is fairly bare bones. Might I suggest you at least have an image in the banner? ]

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ecristen

Community Member, 2 Posts

11 June 2014 at 6:55pm

Hi All,

I have been struggling with the same question... What does SS stand out comparing to other CMS'es.

Joomla, WordPress and many more are blogging systems at first which made it to a CMS due to their popularity and world-wide acceptance. But ask yourself... Am I skilled enough to alter or develop (new) modules/themes when they don't meet my expectations? Do you want to have a CMS with lots of built in features you will never (or hardly ever) use? Then please go ahead with Joomla/WordPress. But...

If you are looking for a solid CMS that is lean and mean at the base but offers great extensibillity features?? Then take a thorough look at SS. The most important item for me t0 address is the fact that you are in control of all the features; allready existing or yet to be build.

I have built many sites in WordPress and Concrete5 and some of them I have rebuild in SS in just 40-50% of the time it took me to build them in their original CMS.

Good luck in choosing the right CMS!

Kind regards, Emil

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swaiba

Forum Moderator, 1831 Posts

11 June 2014 at 3:50am

Hi,

Simply put if you are a coder and you are looking to build a stable strong webbased application with is mainly custom code and you want a total decent MVC framework - silverstripe is IMHO the best.

However if you are not a coder and you want a free website built on free (or virtually free) addons and themes of which you are happy to use as is (i.e. security isn't top of your list) then go for wordpress.

Short, sarcastic maybe - but I hope it helps.