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Very High Memory Usage

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Forum Moderator, 1899 Posts

23 July 2010 at 8:02pm


Recently we have had some issues with hosting and it has emerged that it is a memory issue from the below process list from the box. Each of the sites is of a varying degree silverstripe written (some in 2.4.0 and well coded, other is 2.3.3 or 2.3.7 and having practically nothing apart form a small site tree and one that is coded rather poorly using mainly mysql_query to do the db work and loads of *html pages). The host is saying what did you do to your sapphire/main.php script and I have explained it is called on every page view and it's purpose varies greatly... but they are not really listening.

All I can understand from this is that ss across versions can spike at well over 200 meg of memory usage across versions... Has anyone else seen this? What did you do?

root@stealth [~]# ps auxf | grep 'php'
538 25133 0.0 1.3 238508 27424 15:41 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 24088 0.0 0.4 245276 10156 15:34 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 25395 0.2 0.5 223320 11536 15:43 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 23794 0.0 0.3 245020 7300 15:32 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
527 23884 0.0 0.8 238380 17860 15:32 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 25394 0.2 0.5 223320 11540 15:43 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 24331 0.0 0.4 244488 9744 15:35 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 23849 0.0 0.3 239520 7004 15:32 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
538 25162 0.0 1.3 238504 27428 15:41 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
504 25092 0.0 1.2 236296 25484 15:41 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php
xxxxxxxx 23756 0.0 0.6 240660 12452 15:31 /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/sapphire/main.php


Community Member, 78 Posts

23 July 2010 at 8:16pm

Do you have a lot of images in your sites which are dynamically resized? (eg. image galleries)
GD can be a big memory hog at times...


Forum Moderator, 1899 Posts

23 July 2010 at 8:22pm

there are no image galleries, but there is a large flash animation on a couple of them - mainly they just have styling (background images of fixed sizes)... I have (at the request of one of the designers)...


but this is not set in the main culprit of memory hogging.

Thanks for your suggestion Mad_Clog


Community Member, 78 Posts

23 July 2010 at 8:53pm

100 is overkill for web usage if you ask me.
80 should be sufficient.

But then again, if you don't do any dynamic resizing it won't help a bit...

Without GD usage I've never run into memory problems, even with a memory_limit of 32MB.
Sorry I can't be of more help.


Forum Moderator, 1899 Posts

23 July 2010 at 10:22pm

The really strange thing about this we have (re-enabled) a process killer on the server so that when a php process goes over 64MB it is killed... there are many people using this website constantly throughout the day and with this protection in place they are not noticing any difference...

This leads me to believe that there is some way a script can kick off and then just sit there hogging up memory... we shouldn't need to kill of these "rouge" processes... has no-one else ever noticed this?


Forum Moderator, 1899 Posts

26 July 2010 at 9:05pm

first time I've bumped a topic here...

please can I get some help from the SS team on this - this is a range of ss from 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 and 2.4.0 - I'd open a support ticket as a high priority but I cannot give any more evidence or a way of reproducing it - have you guys at SS ever noticed this?

If not then I'd be curious to find out more about your recommended host and I'll switch to them to ensure it is nothing in the environment.



Community Member, 63 Posts

26 July 2010 at 10:32pm

Hi Barry,

Hope you don't mind me saying the following. There is not enough information from you to really help out at present.

Can I ask you to post some more details?
Like, Are the affected sites all on one web server?
If so what is the Web Server and version that is running?

What version of PHP is installed?

My first thought would be given that its across different sites and different versions of SilverStripe, to look at the web server and particularly at PHP. It may be an idea to post your php.ini config settings. Also how much memory does the Server have?

I realise this may seam like a needle in a haystack.

Also have you matched up the web server logs to the rogue process times to see what pages where being called when the rogue processes start?



Forum Moderator, 1899 Posts

26 July 2010 at 11:52pm

Chris - I welcome your advice to improve my post 100% Thank You :)

Yes all sites are on one server. The machine, os and php verion and info follow...

I had not investigated to match one with teh other as I had assumed it was an SS issue that someone might have encountered before - due ito it being with different versions of ss and some of the sites are so mind-boggling simple that it is very unlikely to be any code I have placed on top of it.

Once again that you for your response... and I'll have a hunt through the serverlogs too...



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